NeXTStep Icons Still in OSX Leopard

NextStep Camera Icon

Windows is known for hanging on to ancient icons. If you go looking in Windows Vista or even 7 you can find icons dating back to the 16-bit era. Mac OS X is not known for this sort of thing, but if you use the single window screenshot short cut, Command + Shift + 4 and then space, you’ll find an icon that dates back to Steve Jobs’ NeXT days. I’ve always liked the design of the NeXT icons even if they appear slightly dated.

The presence of this icon leads to the question: Is this an easter egg or an oversight?

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29 Comments

  1. Posted August 4, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    I love that it’s included. I’d be it’s an easter egg.

    There is a stray line of about 5 pixels to the far right at the bottom of the transparent portion of the icon.

  2. Posted August 4, 2009 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    The icon news is interesting, but the command-shift-4 then space command is really cool! I’m more than a bit ashamed I didn’t already know it.

  3. Posted August 4, 2009 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Also, the new iMovie has an OS 9-style HD icon in the top right corner of the Event Library sidebar, which is a cute tribute.

  4. Posted August 4, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    I’d vote easter egg.

  5. Posted August 4, 2009 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Interface Builder has plenty. One needs look no further than the spring icons for UI widget resizing elasticity to find some examples.

  6. Posted August 4, 2009 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Also, when you bring up the color palette and click on the magnifying glass icon next to the current color you get a magnifying glass cursor which also hails from the NeXT days.

  7. Posted August 4, 2009 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    @GraveyardFields

    [Cmd-Ctrl-Shift-4 ]+Space sets your screenshot onto the clipboard, rather than the PNG on the desktop.

    Gotta love the little Camera icon.

    I didn’t know it allowed you to focus on actual icons too.

  8. Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Somewhere I saw it noted that the Mac OS X Finder icon (/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Resources/Finder.icns) is larger than the original Finder 1.0. It’s larger than the original Mac boot ROMs, which held a large chunk of the system. Kind of tangentially related to the topic at hand, I know.

  9. Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Thanks a lot Nathan, now I’ll always see that little stray line ;-)

  10. Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    There used to be a number of them, and they were easy to spot because they had accurate 4-bit monochrome representations. Sadly, most of last remaining NEXTSTEP icons were purged with Leopard.

  11. Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    I’ve never found out if it’s used anywhere, but have a look at /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Resources/NSMultipleFiles.tiff

  12. Robojamie
    Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    This is all really interesting.. It seems like there quite a few examples of this.

  13. Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    Here’s hoping they fix that stray line in Snow Leopard!!

  14. Posted August 4, 2009 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Let’s hope they fix that stray line in Snow Leopard!

  15. Posted August 4, 2009 at 3:41 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone know where this icon is hidden in the system?

  16. Posted August 4, 2009 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    JayJay – If you look at the Resources of the Grab tool (utilities folder) you will see different instances of the camera icon.

  17. Posted August 4, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Bah. The Basso, Frog, Funk, Ping, Pop, and Tink sounds are all from NeXTSTEP 2.0 or earlier.

  18. Posted August 4, 2009 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    It’s good nostalgia, but this should be fixed. The icon has a single-pixel faux shadow that is really out of place on an operating system that has had real shadows for the entire 21st century. And a camera means “camera” now, not “screenshot”.

    But the other mouse cursors look even older to me. For example, the I-beam, which you see when you hover your cursor over editable text, does not look like it has changed at all from 1984. And the pointing hand is still wearing that Mickey Mouse glove. Other than the Quartz drop shadows in some cases, aren’t these the same icons from System 6?

  19. Posted August 4, 2009 at 7:18 pm | Permalink

    @mau

    Desktop Icons (and only these) are actually little windows.

    Another reason why you should keep your desktop tidy (too many windows = slow OS)

    Weird huh?

    And I never would have noticed the line! I vote minor oversight

  20. Posted August 4, 2009 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    It just dawned on me, but….when installing an Apple application the “Box” is a hold over from NeXTSTEP days too.

  21. Posted August 5, 2009 at 2:16 am | Permalink

    In contrast to Windows, the old NextStep icons are really cool and beautifully designed too. That in itself is pretty amazing, considering how old they are.

  22. Posted August 5, 2009 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    Apple is actually pretty slow when it comes to cleaning redundant UI imagery up. Leopard (and presumably Snow Leopard) contains has hundreds and hundreds of defunct UI bitmaps, like pre-10.3 Titlebars and Titlebar buttons, pre-10.2 Aqua controls, 10.4 Menubar, etc.

    The old school camera still makes me grin (and wince) though.

  23. Posted August 5, 2009 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Having a NeXT back in the day, I got curious about the people behind the product (HW/OS/SW)…to me they were the most interesting people/personalities. No doubt there were allot of really talented people at NeXT.

    One of those people was Keith Olfs was the person whom designed much of the icons ( http://www.ohlfs.com/keith/self/next/next.html )

  24. Posted August 5, 2009 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    I just wrote up a bug about the stray pixels in the camera icon. Thanks.

    (You can write up bugs too externally at bugreport.apple.com.)

  25. Posted August 18, 2009 at 12:08 am | Permalink

    Mars – I see the icons you’re talking about, but the actual icon for the camera being talked about doesn’t seem to reside in the grab resources. If I have terminal open with the top command running, if I try a snapshot, “screencapture” application runs, not grab. Any more ideas where to look for it?

  26. Posted August 18, 2009 at 12:15 am | Permalink

    Found it!
    It’s in a binary file located at:
    /usr/sbin/
    I so wanted to change that icon too. I like a bit of history, but I also wanted to upgrade it. Anyone know if this is possible?

  27. Posted August 18, 2009 at 9:28 pm | Permalink

    yeh right.. great post, Thank You

  28. Posted September 2, 2009 at 3:47 am | Permalink

    Particular utilitarian transmit but there are some place where I last wishes as not agree. But all-inclusive its pure good.

  29. Posted September 17, 2009 at 12:01 am | Permalink

    System/Library/Coreservices/Coretypes.bundle/contents/resources has loads of OS 9 style icons in it. I haven’t found any other NeXTish style icons though :(

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